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Wildflower

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Posted - 03/25/2006 :  2:00:37 PM  Show Profile
And what is the deal with saying that because Blairsville is a "Christian Community" that drinking is wrong.

Which Christian denominations count as "Christian"? Guess what? The Christian universe is not ONLY made up of Baptists!

There is no consensus in Christianity that drinking is wrong; only that drunkenness is. Lets see . . . as I recall, Methodists, Presbyterians, Episcopalians, Catholics, etc . . . are NOT opposed to drinking!

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coosa creek

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39313 Posts

Posted - 03/25/2006 :  2:25:28 PM  Show Profile
Good point, wildflower!!

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mad4martinis

USA
13730 Posts

Posted - 03/25/2006 :  2:31:07 PM  Show Profile
It's based on their own churches beliefs, not their religion. I don't like anyone telling me what to do or not to do. Probably why I don't like organized religion.

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tybee

USA
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Posted - 03/25/2006 :  4:38:31 PM  Show Profile
Maddy

Organized religion is structured from the top down. There is little grassroots input. The idea is that those at the top "know" and those at the grassroots level "must learn." There is no democratic process, or not acceptance that a wide base of believers can produce a better understanding of inspiration.

When there is grassroots input, often great struggles occur. Luther's theses nailed to the door of the church at Wittenburg is an example of how one voice can provide the spark for bureaucracy to change.

If Luther's theses had only created greater quality of faith, the effort would have better. The theses only exchange one hierarchy for another.

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Wildflower

USA
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Posted - 04/07/2006 :  11:35:06 AM  Show Profile
I had dinner with some friends in Blairsville the other week, and I heard an interesting point-of-view about your upcoming vote.

One person said he was going to vote "YES" to wine and beer, and "NO" to mixed drinks. (I didn't know the vote was divided that way.)

His rationale is that having escaped the big city, he wasn't looking forward to large chain restaurants coming in. He said he would rather see local one-of-a-kind restaurants prosper. So, he figures that keeping mixed drinks out will hold back the chains, but wine and beer will help the local restaurants to make money and stay in business.

And it might encourage new ones to open.

I'm in Towns County myself and I feel the same as this Blairsville person. I would rather see more unique restaurants prosper. Having always lived in a city, there are only a handful of chains that seem worthwhile to me.

I really don't want malls either. A Target, a Publix, and some interesting unique restaurants and shops are all I want. Anything more than that is going to destroy what I moved here for.

I can go to Gainesville for a mall in 1 hour.

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Social change

USA
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Posted - 04/08/2006 :  4:06:36 PM  Show Profile
Wildflower. you state you can go to a mall in Gainesville, Ga. Pray tell, where is a mall in Gainesville? Surely you jest in calling Lakeshore a mall? Am I missing something in Gainesville?


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ShadowMan

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Posted - 04/08/2006 :  4:56:51 PM  Show Profile  Visit ShadowMan's Homepage
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Surely you jest in calling Lakeshore a mall?

It is not a jest. I think McGraw Hill has a most appropriate definition for a mall: "a shopping center with a pedestrian focus where customers park in outlying areas and walk to the stores."

Colonial Mall Lakeshore does qualify as a shopping mall. For anchor stores they've got Belk, JC Penney, and Sears. When I look at the listing of stores there, I see store names I associate with malls everywhere.

Perhaps you have something else you look for in a mall that you're missing, but that doesn't invalidate Lakeshore as being one.

Shadow

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Social change

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Posted - 04/08/2006 :  5:01:42 PM  Show Profile
I am referring to the ongoing problems and deterioting conditions at Lakeshore. I believe Belks left last year and consolidated the Gainesville store with the Cumming, Ga. store. Because of the crime problems within the complex, security is now so tight that it deters patrons. Most of Hall County now goes to the Mall of Georgia which is only a few miles away.


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ShadowMan

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Posted - 04/08/2006 :  5:10:14 PM  Show Profile  Visit ShadowMan's Homepage
It's hard indeed for them to compete with Mall of Georgia...

Also, I didn't realize Belk's had moved out of there. With 515 between here at Atlanta, it's a lot easier running down to Town Center Mall these days.

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Social change

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Posted - 04/08/2006 :  8:12:57 PM  Show Profile
Yes, Town Center, Northpoint, Mall of Georgia or Riverstone. It is very hard for older shopping centers, located in basically the center of town to compete with the newer mega malls on the outskirts. However, I read somewhere that huge malls are becoming "not the in place" because of the cost of building and maintaining. Developers are going to the smaller neighborhood shopping centers. Personally, I do not like big malls, to much walking and to many people for my liking.

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coosa creek

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Posted - 04/09/2006 :  09:44:28 AM  Show Profile
I will drink to that! I don't go to any malls!

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fawn

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Posted - 04/09/2006 :  10:31:37 AM  Show Profile  Visit fawn's Homepage
Me either Coosa. I haven't been to the Volusia Mall in Daytona in more than 5 years. My office was only 10 minutes away from the mall and I still avoided the place.

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GrayEagle

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Posted - 04/09/2006 :  2:29:25 PM  Show Profile  Visit GrayEagle's Homepage
Fawn and Coosa, I can't stand going to the malls down here. Well, come to think of it, I'm not too happy going to any mall. I would rather shop online or (don't tell Maddy) Wal-Mart Supercenters!

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Wildflower

USA
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Posted - 04/09/2006 :  6:50:29 PM  Show Profile
Social,

LOL!

I haven't been to Lake Shore yet. I'm just saying . . .

Anyway, I'm more inclined to travel to Gainesville to try out their Target. I think it's supposed to be fairly new?

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Wildflower

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Posted - 04/09/2006 :  6:54:20 PM  Show Profile
Anyway, I spent 17 years in a city that's the third largest retail center in the U.S.

I'm done; stick a fork in me.

Nowadays, I do most shopping via catalogs, online, or local. I have a black belt in online shopping.

People are always asking me . . . "Where did you get THAT?"

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Social change

USA
274 Posts

Posted - 04/09/2006 :  8:32:42 PM  Show Profile
Wildflower, glad to hear of a Target in Gainesville, hopefully there might be one in Blue Ridge next to Home Depot.

If there was not for online shopping or Ebay, I wouldn't have anything. I do not like malls, crowds or standing in line for anything.

Just an old opinionated curmudgeon

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Butterfly

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704 Posts

Posted - 04/09/2006 :  9:39:38 PM  Show Profile
Just so you know Social Change, Belk is still at Lakeshore Mall. They have even expanded (imagine that - unreal for a mall that is going under)!!!!! It may not be Mall of Georgia, but it is still accomadating to those of us that do NOT want to travel further! It has been through some changes in the last few years, but it has held its own! Oh, by the way, I was there this past week in case you were wondering how I knew.

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Admin

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Posted - 04/09/2006 :  9:40:39 PM  Show Profile  Visit Admin's Homepage
<<Grabs a hold of the discussion and drags it, kicking and screaming, back to "Alcohol by the drink" >>

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Wildflower

USA
4528 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2006 :  12:39:34 AM  Show Profile
Hey, can we tie it together by discussing whether drinking should be allowed in malls?

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fawn

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Posted - 04/10/2006 :  08:46:56 AM  Show Profile  Visit fawn's Homepage
Yes...I was wondering the same thing.

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Social change

USA
274 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2006 :  10:49:58 AM  Show Profile
Butterfly, 2 years ago when Belks took over the old K-Mart in Cumming, the Belks manager said the plan was to close the gainesville store and consolidate with Cumming. They did in fact move a lot of merchandise from Gainesville to Cumming. They may have run into a lease problem. Oh Well!

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Social change

USA
274 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2006 :  10:52:17 AM  Show Profile
I agree with Admin---this topic has gone from religion to alchohol to malls. I guess it is time to clean this out and start over. I have lost track which is really not hard for me to do.


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coosa creek

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Posted - 04/11/2006 :  11:46:15 AM  Show Profile
The last time I ate in Gainesville was at a restaurant at the Mall. They allowed alcohol in the restaurant.

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GrayEagle

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Posted - 04/11/2006 :  12:29:47 PM  Show Profile  Visit GrayEagle's Homepage
It may help to go back to page one and read the post that Shadow started. The topic is about the referendum for the sale of alcohol by the drink in restaurants in Union County.

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mad4martinis

USA
13730 Posts

Posted - 04/11/2006 :  9:24:50 PM  Show Profile
Reading the NGN today & the "letters to the editor", got me wondering about this pastor who wrote in about "the drunkard". Is he talking about the alcohol by the drink vote and the drunkards voting against the Church? I'm so lost on why it's even thought of being a vote against the Church?? Maybe I'm missing something??


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