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shucks


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Posted - 07/17/2008 :  12:28:04 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I saw a blurb about home schoolers in Union is 20%. I checked other web sites and found it is more like 22%. Incrementally it should be 25% in 2 years. At 22% this is extraordinarily high and at 25 % is way above the average. That is 1/4 th of the student population!!!

The question is, why so many home schoolers in Union? Is is the school system, teachers or what. Can I get some info from anyone or a teacher in middle school.

I need to make a decision before Aug. 8.

Thanks for anyone's input.

Shucks

samantha_blue


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Posted - 07/17/2008 :  12:44:42 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I home schooled one of mine this past year. He was in 8th grade and doing poorly. It was a combination of the teachers, school, academic requirements, and enviroment. When you put all those together, you got a child who was totally lost and behind and no one seemed to care! The rule of "no child left behind" is just not true in my opinion. No one cares if you have one struggling and everyone is going ahead. They just pass them and then the next year that child has even more trouble because he didn't learn everything he needed the year before!

Anyways, he excelled with home schooling. We did it online and his grades were wonderful, I couldn't have ask for a better experience. I was worried in the beginning, but my fears were soon put to rest and it wasn't as hard as I thought. He got to work at his own pace and I knew he really got it before we moved on to the next phase of the subject. Anyways, If I had the time, I would homeschool all of mine, but since I work I can't.

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daughterofconfederate

USA
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Posted - 07/17/2008 :  12:47:21 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thats great that it worked out and that he has excelled Sam! :)


Will he be home schooled again this year?

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samantha_blue


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Posted - 07/17/2008 :  1:23:47 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nope, he will be enrolled in High School this year! Only because with me working it's too hard on him and me to homeschool with the High School requirements. I think though, he's now caught up to where he's on the same level as the other students, and maybe even more. His biggest struggle was math. Now he understands it so much better than I ever thought! The other subjects he never had a problem with so i'm not worried about that at all. If we can just stay on top of the math part we'll be good. I'm continuing the homeschool website so that when he has a problem/question that I can't answer he'll be quided through by professionals!

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daughterofconfederate

USA
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Posted - 07/17/2008 :  2:17:07 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You are awesome.. did I ever tell you that!

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BlueHydrangea

United States
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Posted - 07/17/2008 :  2:54:44 PM  Show Profile  Visit BlueHydrangea's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Shucks, from what I have heard from parents who have homeschooled children, reasons range from "We want to be able to instill OUR values and religious beliefs at home," "I just don't want other people raising my child," and "If she can learn this much at school with 20 other kids, imagine what I can teach her one on one." Many of the families around here do it for the religious reasons, but certainly not all of them.

As a former teacher, about half of the homeschooled children I got in my public school classroom were behind the others, about a quarter were on the same level as public schooled kids, and about a quarter were above the average level in my classes. I will say overall, many of the previously homeschooled children had excellent behavior upon coming into our classes.

Most recently, a parent told me they had just moved from Atlanta and had chosen to homeschool their children because of the removal of the Pledge of Allegience from schools. "Where are our schools headed?" she asked. I know the Pledge is still recited daily at UC schools. Also, some parents want to protect their children from what "other people's kids will teach/tell them."

I do not believe it's the teachers or the academic performance; check the schools' test scores, especially the Primary School's scores. They are first in PRESA in all subjects, and ranked near the top in the state. I know the Elementary School had an outstanding performance as well.

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xy

USA
174 Posts

Posted - 07/17/2008 :  3:23:36 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is Latin offered by a local homeschool group?
I had heard that a few years ago.

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stardust74

USA
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Posted - 07/18/2008 :  08:08:50 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have several friends here in Blairsville that home school their children. Some that have home schooled the whole length of time without their children ever being put in public school and then some that have took their children out of the public school.
I have mixed feelings on the home school. I think it is great if the child is having problems in public school and doesn't seem to be grasping the education to take them out and home school to give them that one on one attention and to help them learn.
The part that bothers me is the homeschooling for the whole education. I have a friend that makes sure her children are active in the counties rec sports and other activities throughout the county.There are some that don't let their children have that opportunity. Those children only do things with the supervision of their parent and really don't have a life outside their home. When these children do go out in public I have noticed that they do not know how to act, they don't know how to respond to the unstructured world. It just makes me wonder if these children are going to possess the knowledge on how to deal with the conflicts of the real world once they are able to go out there and face it. I think that some of these parents make the children see the world through rose colored glasses and that it will be these children that will pay for it in their adult life.
I think that the children (espically high school age) should at least experience one year in public school dealing with peer pressure and how to deal with it along with other experiences teenagers have and let them work through the conflict and decide to come out positive about it.

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blueridge


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Posted - 07/18/2008 :  08:54:11 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I agree with stardust on this one. Some instances are good for home schooling, but many of those kids do not develop social skills until later in life. I knew someone who was home schooled all their life. They were always asking questions about basic things that aren't taught in a book...

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cjqueen

United States
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Posted - 07/20/2008 :  4:15:10 PM  Show Profile  Visit cjqueen's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Homeschooling, when done right and for the right reasons, can be such a great thing for kids. The main benefit of home schooling is that you can teach for mastery and your kids don't have to stick to a pre-determined schedule of learning.

But, getting the curriculum and needed materials can be expensive. The county's not required to provide curriculum for you. Plus, you have to have someone who has the time and ability to teach your child. That's a full-time job.

And, of course, your child may have social problems as stated above, unless you take steps to prevent this. Involvement in recreational or church sports programs, church youth groups, and local homeschool groups can help with this problem.

I think sometimes it's hit or miss in regards to the quality of education your child will get at UC. You may get a great teacher and your child will learn so much that you're amazed. But, you might get the exact opposite.

You just have to decide what works for you and your family.

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HoneyBee

USA
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Posted - 07/21/2008 :  4:21:13 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Actually the state will provide a computer, printer and access either online or in person with a certified teacher. All courses are offered through the state of Georgia.

The growth rate of homeschooling through the state is enormous.

However, deadline for joining was July 15.

I could not home school I would be looking for a place to hide my child's body.

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moon&stars

United States
101 Posts

Posted - 07/21/2008 :  8:13:44 PM  Show Profile  Visit moon&stars's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I looked into that Honeybee. It's a great program, but since I enrolled my son half-way thru school we couldn't do the state home school program.Go to Top of Page
nativelady

USA
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Posted - 07/21/2008 :  9:39:29 PM  Show Profile  Visit nativelady's Homepage  Reply with Quote
My cousin put her son in Military school. WOW! EXPENSIVE! I do believe. I heard a local doctor here in Blairsville will be home schooling his children also due to alot of "problems" in the system. I never thought we'd see the days we've seen here but...it's only gonna get worse...sad but true.

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blueridge


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Posted - 07/21/2008 :  9:51:44 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What exactly is wrong with our school system?

It CAN'T BE performance because we are consistently in the top 1/3 of the state on most state mandated tests...

Is it Funding? Leadership? Other kids? Drugs? Bullying? Racism?

Seriously, what is it? I have taught in several highly ranked "schools of excellence" and think this place is great.

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nativelady

USA
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Posted - 07/21/2008 :  10:12:02 PM  Show Profile  Visit nativelady's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Blue Ridge, All three of my children graduated from Union County School System. If I sat here and named everything wrong then we'd need another website. Do I think I could do any better? Nope..But I also didn't go to school to be a teacher nor do I want to. There are many problems in the school system. Way too many for me to name. If I possibly could get all three of my kids to sit here and type up the problems I might do that but more than likely...They would smile and half way chuckle and say "Ahh It won't do any good. I won't waste their time." I am thankful my last one took his walk for that diploma last year. I have never been so happy to finally say "Farwell Union County Schools"...in my life!

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cjqueen

United States
55 Posts

Posted - 07/22/2008 :  01:52:07 AM  Show Profile  Visit cjqueen's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:

Actually the state will provide a computer, printer and access either online or in person with a certified teacher. All courses are offered through the state of Georgia.

The growth rate of homeschooling through the state is enormous.

However, deadline for joining was July 15.

I could not home school I would be looking for a place to hide my child's body.

THANK YOU JESUS FOR TEACHERS.


Thatís really the one thing that will save the world. For all of us to live with more tolerance.
K. McGowan


Then, why at the BOE in town do they tell you that you have to buy your own curriculum?

Do you have a link to this for future reference?

Thanks.

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samantha_blue


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Posted - 07/22/2008 :  10:05:44 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I also considered that information before I homeschooled. The only drawback that I had was that you were teaching public school at home, which is fine, but I didn't want the deadlines, curriculum, projects, etc. that are required. My son needed to work at his own pace.

Anyways, it's called Georgia Virtual Academy. The link is http://www.k12.com/gva/

It's great, but your child will still have to go to school to take some tests and they still are required to take the CRCT, etc. just like public school. You don't have the freedom like you would to do your own homeschool program. You are essentially teaching the exact same thing that they are teaching at public school except your doing it at home and your on their schedule so flexibility was an issue. It works for some, not so much for others!

I don't know why it's such a big secret among the teachers but I found out about it while searching for a good homeschool program. Then when I did find it, I asked some teachers and some thought it was good, some didn't. For my son, we all agreed that since math was his weakest subject, he needed a "go at your own pace" learning curriculum in order to understand and retain the information!

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HoneyBee

USA
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Posted - 07/22/2008 :  10:56:23 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You aren't going to get any assistance from the BOE.

Every student that is enrolled in the school system counts as $$$$$ for the education system. They get money for each of the students there.

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shucks


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Posted - 07/22/2008 :  11:14:10 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Stardust, when I withdrew on of my grandkids last year to home school because her grades were not where I though they should be, you would have thought I had insulted the POPE. I was given all types of fear tactics and advice on what might happen to my granddaughter.

I opted to go with Bridgeway, because it is accrediated and you have good in house support. Kid of pricy though, I may go a different direction this year.

The bottom line is, if a child is withdrawn from school it is reported as a dropout and if a child was previously in school here it is a dropout . Dropouts cost the system money and they have a fropout rate of almost 50% now. The mountain area school is at full capacity now because kids are opting out of the regular UCHS.

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cjqueen

United States
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Posted - 07/22/2008 :  8:32:22 PM  Show Profile  Visit cjqueen's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the link, Samantha, and HB for mentioning it. I'll bookmark it. You never know. Like you said, it's not very flexible, but it would work for some.

I know what you're talking about, shucks, regarding warnings about home schooling. I had to homeschool my oldest for the last part of the school last year for medical reasons, but I still got all those warnings/threats from the board office. I'm have a college education and am a former teacher, but I felt like I was being treated like I didn't know anything.

The bottom line is that every kid's different and has different needs. You do what the kid needs to learn.

Regarding curriculum, you can make your own for most subjects. Just go by the Georgia Performance Standards (http://www.georgiastandards.org/) for your child's grade level and for each subject. It's pretty much a checklist of what your child should learn for each grade/subject. If you have a computer and access to the internet, you can use reliable sources to teach/learn each subject. If you can get to the public library, then it's even better. The only subjects where this might be more difficult would be English and math. But, you could do it. It just depends on how comfortable you are with it.

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HoneyBee

USA
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Posted - 07/23/2008 :  3:25:16 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks CJqueen for you information, I didn't know there was a website like that.

What is scary is that our children can not get the education we are paying for with our tax-dollars.

I am paying taxes on public schools but having to pay for private school because public school can't do their job.

I have to agree with my friend Gertie, I think one teacher should have them all day or may be split it between 2 teachers. Teachers can't possible keep up with that many students and give them the time that is needed for each subject.

That is not enough time to evaluate a students needs to see what they need help in.

It isn't fair to the teachers or the students.

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mnikpat

United States
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Posted - 07/24/2008 :  6:32:20 PM  Show Profile  Visit mnikpat's Homepage  Reply with Quote

Just to put my two cents in....

I have friends who work in the school system. I have nothing against the teachers. They do the best they can with the given time and materials.

I have sucessfully completed 3 years of homeschool with my two kids. They have excelled in every subject. I have no formal teaching degree. I only have 1 year of college. But despite all this, I can still teach my kids everything they need to know. I have not gotten to the harder subjects, but I feel assured that we will get through them just fine.

House of Prayer Church in Blairsville hosts a home school co-op for families in the tri-state area. There are other groups like this, but this is the only one in Blairsville. The website is www.gracecoop.com The families in the area come together in a cooperative to teach classes that you may not be as strong in. For me, that is history and science. But because of the opportunity to be part of this co-op, my kids have still been able to receive excellent scores on their year end testing every year!

As for socialization, it has been proven over and over that adults that were homeschooled as children tend to be better citizens and great assets to their communities. My children tend to be over socialized! Between church, sports, camps, friends, cousins, etc.... how can your child be lacking in sociallization???? Please don't mistake a shy child or a child that is attached to their mother to be anti-social?!?! My youngest is shy, but I like that she doesn't take to the first stranger that she sees. Seems safer to me?!?!

Curriculum.... If you use the state provided curriculum, etc, then they get to use your child's excellent scores in their over all state scores. Did they do anything for your child besides provide curriculum, which could have easily been provided by the parents or anyone else??? Did they teach your child? NO! I refuse to allow them to take my childs scores and act like they did all the work.

If you are considering homeschooling, then I would love to talk to you and encourage you. If God deems it, then he will bless it!

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mnikpat

United States
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Posted - 07/24/2008 :  6:34:26 PM  Show Profile  Visit mnikpat's Homepage  Reply with Quote
P.S. Mothers have been homeschooling since the beginning of time. Public school systems have only been around for about a century. We had very well educated presidents, governors, doctors, etc. before the government decided to take over the education of our children.

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meg

United States
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Posted - 08/03/2008 :  9:06:00 PM  Show Profile  Visit meg's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Students who leave the high school and go to the MECHS night school are not considered dropouts. Only those who withdraw and don't enroll in another school are considered dropouts.

Homeschool is wonderful for those with the time, resources, abilities, and personality to do it. For some though, it is a very bad situation.

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ENOUGH

USA
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Posted - 08/13/2008 :  7:29:24 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So how many are home schooling?

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ENOUGH

USA
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Posted - 08/15/2008 :  08:38:08 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I guess everyone has their children in public school this year?

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