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xy

USA
174 Posts

Posted - 10/29/2007 :  08:54:48 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

I wonder why the figures provided

in the "About Us" section of the

Union County School System web site

are from 2003-2004?

We are fortunate to have other web sites

to consult regarding local information.

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shucks


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Posted - 10/29/2007 :  09:00:52 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

XY,could it be covert manipulation?

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xy

USA
174 Posts

Posted - 10/29/2007 :  09:33:44 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I remember during the local meetings regarding the state's change of curriculum, the comment was made by an local administrator that he had never experienced parents being interested in knowing about changes in curriculum. Perhaps the same is true with other information. And I must say this guy did a great job with these meetings.

The world is changing. People are encouraged to ask questions.

On the UC School web site the names of the local school board members was updated after the 2006 election.

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stardust74

USA
2131 Posts

Posted - 10/29/2007 :  12:24:14 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have a child in the high school and I have a question. Someone stated that when a child wants to quit school at 16 that they have to have a parent's signature, if that is correct then my question is WHY WOULD A PARENT SIGN A PIECE OF PAPER FOR A 16 year old to quit school?


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babyloo

USA
217 Posts

Posted - 10/29/2007 :  1:23:14 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Shucks, a specialist's degree is an advanced degree where a person with a Master's concentrates in one or two fields of study, for example math and science or Language Arts and Social Studies.  Teachers in the UC system earned those degrees from one of two places (for the most part) --Mercer University or Lincoln.  I don't think the state recognizes degrees from Lincoln anymore.  Union County has not always been so heavy on the administration side.  It is something of a recent development; one which, I might add, has not been marked by excellence.


I think the reason a parent might sign for a child to drop out is there is a low level of expectation--lip service is paid to finishing school, but hardline expectation is not there.  It was never an issue at our house that our two would finish school.  In fact, they knew if they were 40 they would still be in school.  We never discussed staying out; no one stayed at home unless they ran a temp or had a stomach problem too severe to be in a classroom.  They both knew that after high school they would attend some other school be it college or a vocational school--never a question because it was expected.  Their father and I took the stance that everyone needs a high school diploma and then some.  Both finished high school and attended college and were graduated from college.  Too often, parents give in to petty whines and complaints instead of just buckling down and making the kid buckle down at the same time.

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HoneyBee

USA
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Posted - 10/29/2007 :  1:40:25 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

My kids did receive a diploma and will receive a diploma, however college is an option.


I have had several excellent job's with on the job training and my son is also getting that training and making much more money than my college educated cousin, who has a degree in computers and is working as a bartender.


Depends on your situation and the area you choose to live and work in.


 

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babyloo

USA
217 Posts

Posted - 10/29/2007 :  1:44:57 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I agree with you Honey Bee--it does depend on the situation.  I bet your children are like you--they have a good work ethic and have been taught that if they need money they need a job.  I don't think college is everyone's cup of tea, but finishing whatever you started is important.  That is a problem that surfaces too often--it is easier to quit than to stay the course and fight the good fight. 

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stardust74

USA
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Posted - 10/29/2007 :  1:50:29 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I quit high school which was the biggest mistake that I have ever done, I can't remember though if my mother had to sign something or not. I thought working at a job and making money was more important than school, which was fine for a while and then reality set in.
I would love for my kids to go to college but I'm leaving that up to them, hopefully they will make the right decision, I just know from experience if any of my children want to quit high school, it will not be a pretty scene.

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HoneyBee

USA
4364 Posts

Posted - 10/29/2007 :  2:07:10 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

You are correct babyloo.


They know in no uncertain terms, you will finish what you start, regardless of how insignificant they feel it is. Sports, band, projects, voluntering, school, etc.... No quitters.

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Wildflower

USA
4528 Posts

Posted - 10/29/2007 :  4:22:18 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Timely article on what everyone is talking about:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071029/ap_on_re_us/dropout_factories

Wildflower

Sometimes I get the feeling the whole world is against me.
But deep down, I know that's not true.
Some of the smaller countries are neutral.
~Robert Orben
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nativelady

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Posted - 10/29/2007 :  9:06:27 PM  Show Profile  Visit nativelady's Homepage  Reply with Quote

Call it tough love...But "quitting school" wasn't an option here at the Native household. Well let me rephrase that; I told mine, (all three) and still have one who is a Senior this year, that IF they quit then they had to move out and find a job and keep themselves up. Now college on the other hand is an option to them. I do not plan on making their futures for them; that's their "dance" to what they want. My oldest has done well building. Peachy works for a daycare (on maternity leave now) and Lil Man is learning that if insurance money isn't received then we sell his bow he hunts with; or we just cancell his insurance until he comes up with the money. I told mine if I could finish high school with a two year old and work a full time job to boot ANYONE could finish high school. Regardless of what a teacher said or what 'pee'd' them off..that was just life. We get pee'd off in our jobs so to be quite honest...it's teaching them life skills even in school...you either roll with the flow or you jump out of the water to make it on your own. I am sure others want agree with me on this...and Lil Man has wanted to quit school SEVERAL times but I always remind him that his bed and water and food is free for now. But the minute he walks out of school thinking he "doesn't need" an education is the day he made a decision to be an adult and provide for his own. So far...that has worked.


I'm sure UCHS would of loved to watch him walk out the door many times...but so far...he hasn't given them the pleasure.

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ShadowMan

USA
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Posted - 10/29/2007 :  11:06:28 PM  Show Profile  Visit ShadowMan's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Student, I wondered about that 220 number also. If it's referring to the number of students in a class year as they enter high school versus the number that graduate, it makes a bit more sense that way.

At the time I was in school there, 8th grade was up at the high school. Our class had 181 showing in the yearbook. By graduation time, only 120 were listed in the yearbook, and I think 112 of us graduated. I believe at the time, that was the largest graduating class to date. I'm sure they're above that now.

Then and it appears even now, there was a big adjustment around the 10th grade. I think that's when a number of them decided to go ahead and get a job instead, or got married and got pregnant and needed that job. The number of folks that got married and stayed in school were very, very small as were those that got pregnant, had the baby, and stayed in school.

Part of the Governor's educational message to students currently is understanding the difference in earning power between a high school graduate and a high school dropout. They can show that high school students who graduate earn about $280,000 more over their work lifetime than those who did not graduate. And of course, there's larger discrepencies between those who subsequently went on to college. (These are generalizations - that's not to say that there aren't exceptions to this rule).

Of course, dollars aren't the end all and be all. But they do help understand the stability and level of comfort a person has over their lifetime.

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Wildflower

USA
4528 Posts

Posted - 10/30/2007 :  09:36:43 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I graduated high school in Miami, FL in 1976.

Evidently, we had so few dropouts, I couldn't even tell you who they were. Dropping out just wasn't "done" very much in our school district.

We only had one student who was married, and she was a Cuban girl. It was super unusual. She did not have a child. Her parent's just allowed her to marry young (she was pretty mature). She went to school every day just like the rest of us.

Pregnancies - you won't believe this, but there was only one rumoured pregnancy, and I'm not even sure it was true.

Bullies and fighting were very rare.

Looking back, it seems like the 1970's was a very mellow time to be in high school. We were in between the extremes of the 1960's and the extremes that came later.

Now that I write this, I'm starting to wonder if everyone was smoking pot or something. Why was everything so calm?

But, no, that wasn't the case either. Pot or qualudes were the drug of choice, but the majority of kids didn't do any drugs at all.

Wildflower

Sometimes I get the feeling the whole world is against me.
But deep down, I know that's not true.
Some of the smaller countries are neutral.
~Robert Orben
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babyloo

USA
217 Posts

Posted - 10/30/2007 :  10:24:40 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
MSN's home page has a link today about high school dropouts.  There is suppose to be more federal funding trickled down to high schools in order to improve dropout rates.  NCLB focused mainly on younger students.  I personally think NCLB is a travesty and has accomplished hardly any benefits, but has wreaked terrible problems for the schools.  I wonder what stance the presidential candidates take on this law.

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Wildflower

USA
4528 Posts

Posted - 10/30/2007 :  10:44:39 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If I read xy's link correctly, your SAT scores are higher in Union County than they are in Towns County.

Wildflower

Sometimes I get the feeling the whole world is against me.
But deep down, I know that's not true.
Some of the smaller countries are neutral.
~Robert Orben
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babyloo

USA
217 Posts

Posted - 11/02/2007 :  11:05:03 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
On channel 2 news this morning, they were telling that the first lady was coming to Atlanta because the drop out rate had so dramatically decreased there.  Due, in part, to the addition of graduation coaches.  I hope that this addition has helped in Union County as well.  Everyone NEEDS a high school diploma; they need to stay the course.

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student


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Posted - 11/23/2007 :  1:21:56 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ok, sorry it has taken me a while to get back to the questions a couple of you left for me.

some students drop out simply because high school is not for them. i have more than one acquaintance, even friends, that dropped out and are doing fairly well. they joined the work force and make decent money working construction or perhaps skilled labor, such as being a mechanic.

more often than not the student does not simply drop out. they quit day schol and go to night school at MEC and graduate earlier. that way, they still have their high school diploma.

what causes these drop outs? it is hard to pinpoint it, for there are a multitude of different cases depending on the student. some drop out to work because their family needs money. some, like i said, just hate high school. some are just plain lazy, and were apathetic from the first day of freshman year. the most often case, if i had to pick one, is the first situation i discussed, which is joining the work forceGo to Top of Page

Wildflower

USA
4528 Posts

Posted - 01/09/2008 :  10:17:22 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
New report card for Georgia schools:

http://www.ajc.com/services/content/metro/stories/2008/01/09/qualityed_0109.html?cxtype=rss&cxsvc=7&cxcat=13

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Wildflower

USA
4528 Posts

Posted - 01/09/2008 :  10:20:36 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The link the AJC provided is here:

http://www.edweek.org/ew/toc/2008/01/10/index.html

You can look up any state.

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