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shucks


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Posted - 08/29/2007 :  8:58:30 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Did anyone read the letters to the editor in the Aug.29th issue?

How about the one from the person complaining about the stairs at the courthouse and suggesting the Friday night concerts be moved to the Civic Center or the old theatre building.

As Gomer Pyle was wont to say GOLLEE!!! What was that person thinking. A concert at the Civic center? Why not in the Bi-Lo parking lot? Both have basically the same acoustics and no seating and I have been to the old theatre, need I say more?

I give up!!

Shucks

paprclip22mom

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Posted - 08/30/2007 :  06:40:28 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Shucks when I read this article, I took it to mean the old theater building that's in town near the square. It didnt even dawn on me that they meant the old movie theater out Young Harris Hwy. I was really wondering how they would pull that off since the building has been remodeled and the theater part isnt even accessible anymore. Now I see what they meant. And yeah, a big Haha to the Civic Center huh. I thought somebody had donated money or they were raising money to get an elevator for the Old Courthouse?

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Mr Bill

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Posted - 08/30/2007 :  07:30:10 AM  Show Profile  Visit Mr Bill's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The old Courthouse is a great place, steeped in local history, to have the Friday evening concerts. But it was built in a time that pre-dated air conditioning and handicapped access.

There have been a number of people that have commented on the necessity to go up steps to get into the courthouse, then more steps to get into the old courtroom where the musicians are. And ceiling fans help keep air circulating in the courtroom, but get a sufficiently hot day and a mostly full audience and it does get warm.

The Historical Society is indeed raising money to fund the installation of an elevator. I'm not sure that where exactly it's to be installed has been decided on so that it affects the historic building minimally. But its addition would certainly address one of the main concerns of the writer.

The Civic Center has lost its desirability as a presentation/gathering venue. Outside of some benefits and a couple of Cub Scout functions, I haven't been to anything there in nearly a year. Band concerts are held in Young Harris at Young Harris College, or here at First Baptist Church's auditorium. Big gatherings are held at Southern Tree Plantation or Vogel State Park (although lack of air conditioning at those places are noted too). North Georgia College Blairsville Campus and United Community Bank's Community Rooms tend to serves the business community for corporate presentations or gatherings.

The age and minimum upkeep of the building have caused the community to bypass this once integral community resource and make it unwelcome as an alternative even to the old courthouse. Perhaps that's welcome news - that private resources can provide where once only the government was able to. But it's a bit sad all the same.

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shucks


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Posted - 08/30/2007 :  08:04:37 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mr. Bill, thanks for your comments. I think most everyone agrees that the civic center, while once a viable part of the community, has outlived its usefullness.

It is time to construct an all purpose civic center,including a concert venue. It would be great to have a design that honers the mountain heritage of this area and a building that all could point to with pride.

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HoneyBee

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Posted - 08/30/2007 :  08:14:13 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Great minds think alike, I also thought they were talking about the old theatre in Blairsville, duh!

I think people like the access of the events being held in town and the businesses owners especially.

Concerts and other community gatherings should stay close to town.

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Gumbee


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Posted - 08/30/2007 :  10:53:57 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As I recall, the Bald Mountain Cinema building was constructed to accomodate concerts and theatrical events without much modification. There are doorways stubbed into both the exterior and interior framing in case a conversion was desired. Further, it meets all state and federal building requirements- including the Americans with Disabilities Act.

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shucks


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Posted - 08/30/2007 :  12:50:17 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Gumbee, is the theatre on Brasstown Bald? I have never heard of it. There must be some reason it has not been mentioned prior. Could it be used by private parties for a concert? If it is on Brasstown bald, it is too far out of town to be a viable venue, in my opinion.

I still say the current civic center, plus Fort Sorghum, could be either renovated or demolished and a new civic center plus use Ft. Sorghum and existing parking, would be the most viable venue.

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paprclip22mom

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Posted - 08/30/2007 :  12:52:48 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Shucks, that's the theater that closed out Young Harris Hwy by the bowling alley.

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shucks


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Posted - 08/30/2007 :  12:56:41 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks PCM, I learn something every day. That theatre building is not suited for a concert venue. I was there one time and it was bad, the acoustics were terrible.

Blairsville and Union just need a new modern civic center. Either private funds or county money or combination of both.

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babyloo

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Posted - 08/30/2007 :  2:51:40 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

I have been reading your comments, and it suddenly dawned on me how the Civic Center is not what it used to be.  It was once the hub of all school and community events.  I don't really know of anyone who uses it for anything much anymore. 


I bet several of you went to Proms there when you were in high school.  It was a big ordeal to get it cleaned up for the Prom, and then it was an even bigger ordeal to clean up afterwards.  The high school had to book early or run the risk of not getting it.  I bet now anyone could get it for any weekend.  My, how times have changed. 

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HoneyBee

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Posted - 08/30/2007 :  3:32:48 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
They still have some fund-raising dances there like for 4-H and cheerleaders and such.

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Gumbee


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Posted - 08/30/2007 :  4:17:30 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Blairsville ain't even CLOSE to being ready for a Civic Center. Not in terms of attendance, not in terms of marketability, not in terms of attracting events, not in terms of funding, not in terms of labor sufficiency, not in terms of handling the operating costs.

Blairsville has much to improve first.

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shucks


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Posted - 08/30/2007 :  7:44:35 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Gumbee, I respectfully disagree. Blairsville needs a class civic center NOW. The county has no place for concerts, theatre, social events etc. Smaller towns than Blairsville have great civic centers.

The old adage "build it and they will come" is as true today and in prior years.

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MiddleAgeCrazy

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Posted - 08/31/2007 :  07:53:17 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think the old courthouse is the perfect place for the music venues they are holding there. It just amazes me that we constantly have people griping about things like stairs, etc. We never use to whine all the time, why now????? Why is always someone else's responsibility? Either go and enjoy it or stay home, its pretty simple when you come right down to it.

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shucks


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Posted - 08/31/2007 :  07:58:56 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mac, the courthouse is fine for small concerts going on there now.

However, It in no way meets the current standards of the American with Disabilities Act. It is a miracle that someone already has not filed suit for compliance.

For larger concerts, theatre etc. a larger venue is sorely needed.

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MiddleAgeCrazy

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Posted - 08/31/2007 :  08:48:31 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I believe it would be excempt Shucks, its a historical building.

Besides you are never going to have any type concert larger than what we have now in Blairsville.

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Mr Bill

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Posted - 08/31/2007 :  08:53:17 AM  Show Profile  Visit Mr Bill's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The ADA applies to "All areas of newly designed or newly constructed buildings and facilities and altered portions of existing buildings and facilities". (Section 4.1.1)

That does not that apply to the old Courthouse. There's even a specific section about historic buildings that tells how it pertains if any changes were made to the structure. Basically, additions or changes to the structure would need to be ADA-compliant but it wouldn't apply to any other part of the building.

In other words, if they add the elevator like they're talking about, the elevator itself would need to be ADA-compliant for both ingress and egress. The rest of the structure would stay as is.

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HoneyBee

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Posted - 08/31/2007 :  09:29:03 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have no problems with disabled people if they truly have a debilitating problem, it's all the ones that are fronting that cause me to reduce my sympathy level. Years of bad choices are coming back to haunt a lot of people as they get older and they expect everyone to make excuses and acceptions for them. Maybe it's the bad experiences I have had with the motorized shopping carts and rude people.

I always try to assist the elderly or the handicapped people as best I can, but don't try to force me into it.

The music is great and can be enjoyed at the ground level. A sitting area downstairs would be a great alternative to the step issues and probably less crowded that the upstairs.


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HoneyBee

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Posted - 08/31/2007 :  09:45:08 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I know that my reply above is going to cause me a lot of grief from people but I can think of two great women in my life.

Granma Rose who suffered from years of Leukemia problems and issues and never felt that anyone owed her anything. Her family assisted her with she needed and she never made demands.

Granma Hilliard who suffered from years of Alzheimer's and never expected that everyone should wait on her hand and foot and bend to her whim.

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spam4einstein


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Posted - 08/31/2007 :  10:19:37 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Who is going to pay for a new one? I think I wouldn't mind it, but sure don't want to pay for it. I also dont think we need one, finding a use for something and needing it are two different things. How about enjoying the small town stuff we got and not going "bigger and better". Then again I don't want this so called "downtown revitalization" thing either. Why take something quaint and "real" and turn it like every other cookie cutter row of antique, art, fudge and other schlock selling tourist stores. Helps the realtors and downtown biz owners, but will any of this increase our quality of life? I dont think it will.

How about we focus on things that are seriously wrong in UC like runaway taxes and a school system managed with complete fiscal ineptitude only able to provide a "average" education on a caviar budget. Perhaps bringing in real jobs to keep our best and brightest youth here... not just the ones with family connections in the few decent paying sectors here.
Lets fix the real problems before we worry about new civic centers and Paver embelished sidewalks downtown. This is truly how I feel about a "revitalized" downtown even though it will be good for my wallet as a downtown Biz. owner. I would rather make a litte less $$ and leave downtown more or less as is.
I think the planters are very pretty and if we could get the gravel trucks to show a little respect. That would be about all I would like changed.
Once again thats just my opinion. I greatly respect all the effort those folks who give their time that do want to see a "prettier" downtown and Janet Hartman is very talented and working hard for you. I have been around enough revitalized downtowns to know I just dont share that vision with the many who do want to see a "renewed" downtown. I see more beauty in our half forgotten slightly gritty real downtown than any "renewed" downtown I have seen. I suppose I am just weird like that?

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HoneyBee

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Posted - 08/31/2007 :  10:33:33 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That's right SPAM fix it up, clean it up, but don't replace it.

I do not want us to be a Helen, Pigeon Forge, Gatlinburg or Blue Ridge. Even though I really think Blue Ridge is tasteful and I do like to visit it, just too many antique shops.

If you have to have the big box stores, then at least keep them out of the downtown area and to the far outskirts of town.

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spam4einstein


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Posted - 08/31/2007 :  10:34:22 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
May I add one thing. I think we do need a high school theater that seats a large group. If I had lots of $$ I would donate one. It would serve the whole community and is very badly needed. Its kind of a shame none of our community members with the means has stepped up to do this. I see alot of streets named after folks, but a painfull lack of philanthropy among our "most weathy" in a community that the vast majority of small biz owners, bank employees, farmers, churches and community members give more than their share.

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spam4einstein


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Posted - 08/31/2007 :  10:39:24 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Perhaps you hit on something there HoneyBee. We could take Helen's lead and do the downtown in TIKI style like the south pacific. Grass roofs and torches and coconut trees! Hey, its no crazier than turning your downtown into a swiss village??? I dont think I would like a a tiki theme either though.

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spam4einstein


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Posted - 08/31/2007 :  10:43:31 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, off to my last day at the deli. Got very few items lef but figure I would finish out the week. Already working on the next adventure.


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shucks


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Posted - 08/31/2007 :  10:59:27 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Spam, your post was great. You covered several post topics in on single post.

I do not agree with all your points but I do on some.

Yes we do need a high school performing arts center that could be used as a multi purpose bldg.

To MAC and Bill--One of the first signs of getting old is memory loss. I had completely forgot the old courthouse was a historic bldg and exempt from ADA regs. Putting an elevator in is going to be tricky.

The venue as is is now in the courthouse is perfect, even with the shortcomings, for small bluegrass, gospel and old time music.

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