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shucks


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Posted - 07/26/2006 :  10:21:29 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I had intended to let "sleeping dogs" lie, but I had to reply to this one.

The political infighting has already started. I am assuming everyone read Lamar's open letter to prior Mayor Potts in the NGN today. Since I did not fall of the truck yesterday, it would appear to be like the country song "Somebody done somebody wrong". Paul Harvey would say, Now, The rest of the story. Obviously, there is more to this and it will continue to unfold.

Can the City of Blairsville elect to serve beer and wine without the county? I know Cumming, Ga got tired of losing referendums and finally said we will serve it and if you don't like it, take us to court. The county did and lost big time because brown bagging was already allowed. The county had to capitulate then and allow alcohol.

I am not naive enough to believe the developers of the proposed resort and probably the UCDA did not have some type agreement or working plan with the county to sell alcohol at the resort they were planning! I am sure the developers feel like they have been led down a primrose path and will go elsewhere to spend their money. More tax dollars gone with the wind.

We hear that the Wal Mart deal is on track. Wal Mart will not build in Blairsville without alcohol sales. The commissioner is going to have to make a decision on this very soon or lose Wal Mart. No folks, it is not over, the alcohol battle is just starting. As mentioned in a prior post, the proposed resort can petition under State statues and get alcohol approved without the commissioner's consent.

The View Points section of the NGN was enlightning. Did you realize God's children defeated Satan's brew? So, if you voted "yes" the premise is you are NOT one of God's children. So, 49% of you are not God's children so I guess you can stay home Sunday.

How bout' this one, Give God Thanks! God did not ask me, I must have been out of town.

These type comments can only come from persons who haven't accepted the fact that this is the 21st (or 20th) depending on how you figure it. Park your nule and wagon at the hitching post and amble in and vote.

Yes, circle the wagons' boys, the battle is beginning and the verbage is starting to fly.

Ain't politics great?

Shucks


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fawn

USA
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Posted - 07/26/2006 :  10:35:09 PM  Show Profile  Visit fawn's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Interesting! I've heard the same "plans" (resort, high priced homes, golf course, etc) for an area west of Murphy. The property is already bought, plans being made, etc., etc. It seems rather odd to me that two such places would be on the drawing board. Wonder how much of this is wishful thinking.

On the WalMart issue....even if the "YES" voters had won, WalMart could not sell alcohol. Why would WalMart care if an Appleby's or other restaurants built nearby?

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mad4martinis

USA
13730 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2006 :  12:12:48 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:

Interesting! I've heard the same "plans" (resort, high priced homes, golf course, etc) for an area west of Murphy. The property is already bought, plans being made, etc., etc. It seems rather odd to me that two such places would be on the drawing board. Wonder how much of this is wishful thinking.

On the WalMart issue....even if the "YES" voters had won, WalMart could not sell alcohol. Why would WalMart care if an Appleby's or other restaurants built nearby?



I'd heard a while back that the Ritz Carlton was looking at the acreage behind the Summit. (44 acres?)
WalMart would love those restaurants near their location. It brings more shoppers to them. Only makes good retail sence. I think it would have been a matter of time if that yes vote had gone through that we'd be able to have sales in the stores. A huge amount of sales in Walmarts come from their beer/wine sales.

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CaseyDoodleBug

USA
287 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2006 :  06:35:13 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have no idea whether Wal-Mart is not coming to Blairsville or not, and don't really care, but the idea they backed out because of the vote doesn't ring true to me.

First, they have already signed the contract on the land in Cleveland GA and White County and the city of Cleveland are dry. Wal-Mart was told upfront that there were no immediate plans to put beer/wine license on the ballot and they proceeded with the new store. Also, as posted above, they couldn't have sold beer/wine anyway, as we only voted on a pouring license, or am I missing something?

There are lots and lots of small towns in Texas with Wal-Marts and many of them do not sell beer/wine due to local laws.

I do agree that this battle has only begun. I believe it will be a major factor in our next Commissioner's race if Lamar stands by what he said about not putting it back on the ballot.

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MiddleAgeCrazy

USA
1435 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2006 :  07:27:22 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good point Casey, but.............why would Walmart want to build a new store in Blairsville knowing it was going to adversely impact their store in Murphy. Unless they had different plans for down here? It doesn't make sense.
All the restaurants in front of the store in Ellijay now entice me to go down there, when I would have not done so in the past. We go and have dinner at a nice place and then go to walmart. Without the restaurants, its just run to Murphy in and out. An the store in Ellijay is much nicer, better selections and all.

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daughterofconfederate

USA
29728 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2006 :  07:35:03 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Different States maybe? Wal Mart in Murphy will not be impacted as much as it may seem. They will be relieving the demand I believe there at that Murphy store because Tennesseeans, Robbinsville, Topton, Andrews, Telico-ans, and Hayesville are served by the Murphy Wal Mart. Thats a pretty good bit of counties.. and for now add us and Blue Ridge and Towns Co. that that one store is serving.

Before that new store was built, it was not open 24 hrs and was not a super store that sold wine much less food.

I agree with Casey too. "I have no idea whether Wal-Mart is not coming to Blairsville or not, and don't really care, but the idea they backed out because of the vote doesn't ring true to me. "
Diddo Mrs. Casey. :)


We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give.
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ShadowMan

USA
4158 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2006 :  07:35:08 AM  Show Profile  Visit ShadowMan's Homepage  Reply with Quote
To tell the truth, the way that area around the Ellijay Wal-Mart has transformed after they put the Wal-Mart there has kind of scared me from wanting one here.

Have y'all seen how they removed practically a whole mountain that was behind that Wal-Mart - I suppose in preparation for whatever they're going to build next?

Blairsville's been removing a hill over by Shotgun Alley that's in line with the end of the (now longer) airport runway and that nearly seems too much. I can't imagine what kind of major earth moving Wal-Mart and friends would want to do around here to create the huge lake of asphalt that serves as their parking lots.

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mad4martinis

USA
13730 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2006 :  07:40:43 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Say goodbye to the beautiful views. Sprawlmart is on the way.
Vote no!! LOL

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daughterofconfederate

USA
29728 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2006 :  08:06:20 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:

To tell the truth, the way that area around the Ellijay Wal-Mart has transformed after they put the Wal-Mart there has kind of scared me from wanting one here.

Have y'all seen how they removed practically a whole mountain that was behind that Wal-Mart - I suppose in preparation for whatever they're going to build next?

Blairsville's been removing a hill over by Shotgun Alley that's in line with the end of the (now longer) airport runway and that nearly seems too much. I can't imagine what kind of major earth moving Wal-Mart and friends would want to do around here to create the huge lake of asphalt that serves as their parking lots.

Shadow

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Shader, I could be wrong but hunnys cousin lives down there and says that these mountains that are being moved are that of land owners in hopes of turning profits.. and they indeed have. Kinda like the condos out there that was just built next to what used to be ROADRUNNERS USED CARS in Hiawassee, they moved earth to get that but it was a local or shall I say locals who done that.. and they have clear cut and cleaned and dumped lots of mother nature to bring in more residential living.. As for Wal Mart being spotted for that ground moving in Ellijay, Id say it was the ones who sold the land too that brought it there... and then Home Depot here, land was re developed there too.


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MiddleAgeCrazy

USA
1435 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2006 :  08:09:28 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Estimates were as high as 38% loss in revenue to the Murphy store. But they were counting on gradual recovery as that region also expanded with move in fill the void.

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daughterofconfederate

USA
29728 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2006 :  08:12:04 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes sir, That sounds about right.

These mountains will not all be gone either, or I wouldnt imagine they would be gone. There is gonna be building of some kind within these mountains tho.. wether its stores or residential. We are a fantastic place on this earth and I cant blame ANYONE for wanting to be part of our community.


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ShadowMan

USA
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Posted - 07/27/2006 :  08:17:55 AM  Show Profile  Visit ShadowMan's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
and says that these mountains that are being moved are that of land owners in hopes of turning profits..

I'm sorry. I didn't mean to imply that Wal-Mart was the one that was removing the mountain behind it. But the presence of Wal-Mart there is what made it attractive for the land owners to develop it in that fashion.

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daughterofconfederate

USA
29728 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2006 :  08:43:01 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ooo , ooo ok! Gotchye. sorry! yes its first thing in the am for me too.. and the head aches so I am off of here. lol.


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Wildflower

USA
4528 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2006 :  09:47:02 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It could be true about a resort being subject to different rules.

In April, I went to the Snowbird Mountain Lodge in Robbinsville, NC for someone's birthday. They've been around since the 1940's and never served liquor except for some special "Wine Dinners" they used to do.

Now they have a liquor license and have added a bar area to their restaurant. They served mixed drinks and have a large wine list.

It seems the key was having their status changed to "Resort", whereas they were considered an "Inn" before.

I'm not sure what qualifies as a "resort", but they did build some tennis courts to help change their designation.

Perhaps similar laws apply in Georgia. If so, the recent vote would have no effect.

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daughterofconfederate

USA
29728 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2006 :  09:54:49 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Very true WF. I always wondered about the Brasstown Vally when it first came here in what 94? And was told the same.. its a resort which was acceptable.. Not that I didnt favor it being here cause I did and do, being from here and hearing a bar is that close was like saying that six flags bought that land across from the resort haha! IT DIDNT YALL! I am just using that as a ... o gosh whats it called, ??


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mad4martinis

USA
13730 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2006 :  10:05:42 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey, maybe we could get them to open up a wine tasting room up at Walasi-Yi or a bar! Hmmmmmmm.... It's under that "umbrella" of the state.

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Wildflower

USA
4528 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2006 :  11:10:18 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's always been my understanding that restaurants in Hiawassee (not Young Harris) can serve wine and beer, but only Brasstown and The Ridges Resort (Fieldstone) can serve mixed drinks because they are "Resorts". Yacht Club is part of the resort.

I don't get the reasoning why a mixed drink is subject to more regulations, but that's the way it is.

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Wildflower

USA
4528 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2006 :  11:36:06 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Read this in the summer of 2005:

"The Brasstown Valley Resort, Young Harris, Ga., has incorporated a cocktail into its 10th-year celebration. It used its turtle logo as inspiration for the Turtle-tini.

Turtle-tini

1/2 ounce Chambord liqueur
1/2 ounce peach blossom schnapps
Splash of pineapple juice
Splash of orange juice

Shake all ingredients together with ice in a martini mixer. Pour into a martini glass and garnish with a pineapple wedge and a cherry."

Wonder if they still serve this? Or was it just for their anniversary?

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coosa creek

USA
39313 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2006 :  3:05:21 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well I agree, this is not the end of it. We will probably see something interesting happening in the next election.

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mad4martinis

USA
13730 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2006 :  8:31:47 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just that in that turtletenni? Heck, with the price you pay for that drink you've just bought a bottle of peach schnaaps! Yes, they still have that drink.

I'm designing a shirt that says, "don't blame me, I voted YES"!

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shucks


2145 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2006 :  10:16:04 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
One of the problems that Wal Mart created in the past was building a store in a strip mall, like the old Wal Mart in East Ellijay. When it became apparent the stores would be wildly successful, Wal Mart concieved the Super Wal Mart. In essence this "killed a community twice, first when they opened the store and purposely cut prices to drive out the competition and then when the closed the store, hence killing the shopping center because they were the anchor tenant. These became what is known as "ghost centers". Thankfully , with few exceptions, these stores have either been sold or have other tenants.

The new concept and marketing strategy is modeled on the Super Wal Mart in East Ellijay. A free standing store with out parcels in front drawing additional customers, namely better restaurants.

Whatever you think of Wal Mart, they know how to run a successful business and how to make money. Isn't that what it is all about, providing goods a services at the lowest price possible?

By the way, Wal Mart isn't the only company to build a store and leave for a bigger store. Target, Scotties and to a lesser degree K-Mart did the same thing.

Hopefully, we will get a Wal Mart here in Blairsville. I am getting tired of driving to East Ellijay even though I like the restaurants. Especially when it is 95 degrees and I can have a great meal and have a cold beer and go shopping in one trip. I do not like the Murphy store because it is smaller, has less goods, less grocery selection and it is just plain "dirty".


Shucks

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JawJa Gurl

USA
1139 Posts

Posted - 07/28/2006 :  09:03:16 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I reckon I'm just a stick in the mud and too old school.?.

I like the fact that No won but it won't last long. Everything changes and I do eventually adjust. :) Canton just got the Yes on that kinda thing last year (I think).

I love WM and I just about live there, but I'd vote No for it comin to B'ville. It's sad and not to mention ugly the way Ellijay looks now w/ all their growth and such. It's gettin so grown and crowded that it's startin to be a pain to go anywhere near that stretch of road much less visit the shops in that area.

I don't like or do change well if y'all haven't noticed. :)

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coosa creek

USA
39313 Posts

Posted - 07/28/2006 :  4:04:06 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Can't say I blame you Jawja, I moved here to live in a really small town and was willing to give up stores and shopping!

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fawn

USA
2223 Posts

Posted - 07/28/2006 :  4:33:33 PM  Show Profile  Visit fawn's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Ditto, Coosa.

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coosa creek

USA
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Posted - 07/29/2006 :  1:36:45 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I even liked living on a gravel road!! Our first phone was on a tree, remember Green Acres???

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