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Wildflower

USA
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Posted - 07/22/2006 :  4:12:57 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
spell check!

"Priorities"

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nativelady

USA
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Posted - 07/22/2006 :  5:43:45 PM  Show Profile  Visit nativelady's Homepage  Reply with Quote
You're right Wildflower. I understand what Casey is saying. I honestly do. Actually, she wasn't the one I was referring to or about. It just seems, that the ones (Not Casey) who want to go on n on n on n on...(did I say On n On?) about the money issue are the ones who would cut a penny into tenths to save, but would spend it on stupid stuff. What I am gettin' at...Is what is "wasteful" in one's eye, might not be in anothers. But there are one or two on here that that's all you hear is MONEY MONEY MONEY, it just makes me and SEVERAL OTHERS sick to hear and read money in every post. And if it is nothing more than durn food, then you hear money money...And as someone told me a long time ago, ONLY THE WEALTHY MOAN OVER MONEY! Well, I have learned that now! No moaning here! Live one day at a time and Loving it!

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coosa creek

USA
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Posted - 07/22/2006 :  5:46:23 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The going out to eat everynight and buying alcohol was directed at me. Yes, i do give quite a bit of money to Habitat for Humanity. My eating out probably costs less than the 2-3 packs of cigarettes some families consumes.
I do not believe it is wrong to spend money on something that you believe it, but it is a waste if it did not affect how anyone voted. I believe the churches should have written to the newpapers, let their position be know and saved the money for something more worthy!

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fawn

USA
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Posted - 07/22/2006 :  8:41:53 PM  Show Profile  Visit fawn's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Now that the vote is OVER (thank goodness)....how long are we going to have to look at the mini-size yellow billboards...one at the corner of 129 and Pat Colwell and another one a little further up on 129? They just ain't pretty at all and their usefulness is gone.

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shucks


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Posted - 07/22/2006 :  10:24:32 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Since all I have to do is sit on my deck and drink coffee and pick my guitar , I have a lot of time to ponder and to reflect on the election.

Since only 45 persons cast ballots in the city, the premise is that they do not care. I suppose it may be a good time for the city to relinquish their charter, turn over all services to the county, become an unincorporated entity and a wide place in the road and slide slowly into oblivion.

In essence 49 individuals determined the future of Union County, despite a concentrated effort of the churches. I noted in the NGN that a group of ministers were at one of the meetings on the YES/NO debate, and the then minister of the Methodist Church was very vocal in not even wanting it on the ballot. The minister left within a few weeks and moved to Carrollton Ga. a college town, awash in bars, pseudo strip clubs, alchohol serving restaurants and the college scene. I guess more money and a larger home outweighed his moral outrage at trying to dictate the rights of Union County. Hey, I would move for more money and a larger home too, but I would not try to force my beliefs down the throat of the place I was leaving.

The commissioner has some hard decisions to make. If Wal Mart does indeed build in Blairsville, will the commissioner allow them to sell alchohol? Is he willing to say no to Wal Mart and the loss of many jobs and a boon to the county coffers. How about major grocers, any concessions? By the way, did you know that Publix owns BiLo? Interesting isn't it.

With the county needing money for services that are sorely lacking, will the new appraisals reflect the tax concept of taxing the properties at "best use concept" in lieu of it's present usage? If so, taxes will skyrocket and screams of foul will be heard all the way to Ducktown. The money to run this county has to be obtained from somewhere. In the meantime, the county is stagnant and needs the money that continues to flow out of Union County at an alarming rate with no relief in site.


Ain't politics great?

Shucks

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ShadowMan

USA
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Posted - 07/22/2006 :  11:18:51 PM  Show Profile  Visit ShadowMan's Homepage  Reply with Quote
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If Wal Mart does indeed build in Blairsville, will the commissioner allow them to sell alcohol? Is he willing to say no to Wal Mart and the loss of many jobs and a boon to the county coffers.

The Commissioner has gone on record that the issue is closed while he he remains in office. Were he to go back on that word it would mark him untrustworthy, and what does a politician have for coinage except his or her position and his or her honor? It would be far more damaging for him to go back on his word than to capitulate and give Wal-Mart a green light for alcohol sales once they established a presence within the county.

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By the way, did you know that Publix owns BiLo? Interesting isn't it.

It would be interesting if it were true - which it isn't. They are two separate companies. Bi-Lo and Publix. There was a rumor about Publix buying the local Bi-Lo, but that was addressed by our Commissioner here (click).

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In the meantime, the county is stagnant...

I don't see how you can consider our county stagnant. We seem to be going through an unprecedented growth period. If the current real estate transaction rate holds, the Clerks office will outgrow their brand spanking new office within three years. That is not the hallmark of a stagnant county.

Shadow

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nativelady

USA
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Posted - 07/23/2006 :  12:16:17 AM  Show Profile  Visit nativelady's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Not only you Coosa, Others also. It's just no one who is on the opposite side sees while we on the opposite side of you dont see. It's just like the election, 50/50. And you can sling cigarettes all you want at me, thats fine. While your pickling your liver (which I am sure your total alcohol bill is probably approximate to my nicotine habit) , I'll tar up my lungs. I can admit, that I am an addict. Key word, ADMIT!

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Wildflower

USA
4528 Posts

Posted - 07/23/2006 :  01:33:03 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is it me, or is it getting personal in here?

I don't think anyone can judge whether someone is being wasteful with money in their PERSONAL lives. You simply don't have access to their income or budget.

A person may cut spending in one area, just so they can spend it in another area, like eating out.

Plus, you can't really judge whether spending extra money in one area is actually wasting money, unless you know what that money is buying for the person.

For example, what if a person hires a housekeeper a couple of times a month, because they own a business that occupies their time? That expenditure might contribute to their success because it buys them more time to rest and gain more energy to spend on the business.

I suppose some of us just don't even think the money donated to the alcohol cause was "effective" in solving any problems that exist with alcohol.

That issue is visible for all to figure out.

But you can't figure out another person's personal expenses or priorities, because the facts are invisible to the outsider.

I think the tendency of eating out for dinner tends to vary with locale anyway. Happens a lot in cities (for lots of reasons) and less in the country.

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coosa creek

USA
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Posted - 07/23/2006 :  07:59:34 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Why do you assume that I am on the opposite side, Native? I only object to the money I feel could have gone to a better cause! I am sure that the $6.99 I spent on dinner last night was less than your family spent on cigarettes yesterday. But let's not bicker about it, it is too beautiful a day.

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mad4martinis

USA
13730 Posts

Posted - 07/23/2006 :  08:24:15 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Chillllll!!


Shucks, Publix was looking & talking to BILO about buying them, they didn't. Doesn't mean they still don't want to, but it's not the case right now.

I think that the people who tell me "I would have voted yes if I'd made it out that day",(or some other lame excuse) are the one's to blame for this not going through. I'd rather them just not say a thing.

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coosa creek

USA
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Posted - 07/23/2006 :  08:37:06 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, I have talked to several people that didn't vote and would have voted yes. They never dreamed it would come this close.(One lady did just have surgery and did not feel well enough)

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daughterofconfederate

USA
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Posted - 07/23/2006 :  08:48:47 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hunny got me laughing over this 49 votes thing.. and of course he was just kidding but he said that had there not been 49 hung over it coulda been a tie! I thought it was funny...


We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give.
Sir Winston Churchill


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daughterofconfederate

USA
29728 Posts

Posted - 07/23/2006 :  08:50:25 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Why do you assume that I am on the opposite side, Native? I only object to the money I feel could have gone to a better cause! I am sure that the $6.99 I spent on dinner last night was less than your family spent on cigarettes yesterday. But let's not bicker about it, it is too beautiful a day.



I agree Maddy and further more, FINANCIAL BUSINESS IS NO BUSINESS OF ANYONES OTHER THAN THE ONES WHO WORK AND EARN THEIR MONEY!


We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give.
Sir Winston Churchill


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MiddleAgeCrazy

USA
1435 Posts

Posted - 07/23/2006 :  10:04:33 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was just sitting here catching up one the post to this thread, I haven't been here since the election. An noted the one that suggested surrendering the city charter and turning things over to the county. IMO is would be better to reverse that. Who really needs the county? Several citys have taken over the counties in Georgia already and it seems to work better. I mean what is offered out in the county? No restaurants at all, no grocery stores, no retail to speak of; a car dealer, a tractor dealer and a hardware store. But every thing else is situated inside the city.

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daughterofconfederate

USA
29728 Posts

Posted - 07/23/2006 :  10:24:09 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
To be honest, I never really saw the big difference in the City and County - until I started voting and until my cousin became a reason to find conserns.. he is County where you are City and now I do see a difference.. The City does have lotsa activity and as far as thats conserned, tax dollars.. but on the other hand, tax dollar wise, all the goings on around the county.. I honest to goodness just wonder.. how much money is made off of the crime in the county? I know its not as much as what is lost because of it... but.. that was a issue discussed with my mother last nite.. with all the DUIs we have now, she said, there is still tax money being made??? cause of court fees and cost and...?? ANYWAYS I AINT POLITICALLY INCLINED BUT AT THE TIME THE CONVERSATION WAS MAKING SENCE.. I dont see the big too doo with the way the county is and the city is now myself.


We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give.
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ShadowMan

USA
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Posted - 07/23/2006 :  10:41:32 AM  Show Profile  Visit ShadowMan's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I lived in Virginia for a few years in the Hampton Roads area and they have city and county government and services merged together. I'm not sure how much more efficient it was, though. When I left, they had just completed building a new municipal building that the locals derisively called the "Taj Mahal".

I'm not sure I agree with the characterization of what is outside city boundaries though. Most people still consider Alexander's as Blairsville's own department store and wouldn't go anyplace else first. Ace Hardware is a significant store also. Kate's Western Store is out by the community horse arena. Prete's Pizza has opened up off of Mulky Gap. Bitter Creek Market & Deli is outside the city out the Young Harris direction. I doubt the Sawmill Place is within city limits. Suzanne's and the whole Pappy's Plaza is well outside there. The Country Smokehouse on 129S. That's just a quick list. No, there's still quite a lot outside the city boundaries.

Shadow

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coosa creek

USA
39313 Posts

Posted - 07/23/2006 :  10:42:09 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Why do you assume that I am on the opposite side, Native? I only object to the money I feel could have gone to a better cause! I am sure that the $6.99 I spent on dinner last night was less than your family spent on cigarettes yesterday. But let's not bicker about it, it is too beautiful a day.



I agree Maddy and further more, FINANCIAL BUSINESS IS NO BUSINESS OF ANYONES OTHER THAN THE ONES WHO WORK AND EARN THEIR MONEY!


We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give.
Sir Winston Churchill


I would be happy to discuss my finances with anyone who is interested in them.I am sure my family makes no more money than anyone else on this forum. What is the big hang up on money? We all need it to live on!!



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coosa creek

USA
39313 Posts

Posted - 07/23/2006 :  10:50:54 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That is the first time I tried the quote thing. I am afraid I did not do it correctly, sorry!

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MiddleAgeCrazy

USA
1435 Posts

Posted - 07/23/2006 :  12:40:33 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'll concede that there are some businesses outside the city limits, but all the essential ones I guess is what I was trying to say. Gotta remember you get taken to task for not stating it 100% on here, conversational discussion is a lot different than written.

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paprclip22mom

USA
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Posted - 07/23/2006 :  12:42:42 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
UMMMm Isnt Save A Lot located outside the city limits? That would mean Mikes Seafood is too. And the Mexican Place.

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coosa creek

USA
39313 Posts

Posted - 07/23/2006 :  12:46:41 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What are the city limits. Where do they stop near sav a lot?

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paprclip22mom

USA
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Posted - 07/23/2006 :  12:59:53 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If I'm not mistaken Coosa, the city limits end where they are doing all that earth moving before Save A Lot. I do know that a lot of the city limit signs were moved for one reason or the other. The Mayor is aware of this and has promised to move them back. When the race for Mayor was going on here, the city limit sign was moved 2 houses up from it's original place above my house. The guy who was running against the current Mayor would not have been eligible, however the sign was moved and nobody noticed. It has been noted now and the Mayor said they will be moved back.

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Wildflower

USA
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Posted - 07/23/2006 :  2:20:22 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"ANYWAYS I AINT POLITICALLY INCLINED . . ."


I'm not picking on you DoC, but why do people say they are not politically inclined?

Politics affect every single aspect of the life you live.

All of the decisions that are made politically, affect you and your family; not to mention your future.

If you don't pay attention, you allow other people control all the details of your life. And you might not like the choices they make!

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nativelady

USA
11126 Posts

Posted - 07/23/2006 :  4:54:01 PM  Show Profile  Visit nativelady's Homepage  Reply with Quote
LOL! I am sorry the only thing I can do is laugh! I was just looking at Members and how many posts there are for members.

Doc, I would have to say, You and I must of got a life somewhere along the way, Because if we had kept on posting the way we once did, we would probably be 4 Times the number, you and I have now. And .......

Ahhh, this is silly! The whole thing, I cant really believe I even let myself get "swept" away into this thing. Money is a personal thing. I agree. But my church is a personal thing also. So those of you who keep saying "personal"...well, my church is my family too! So with that said, I will leave it at that!

I am painting WON below my VOte No....Think that will look good?

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coosa creek

USA
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Posted - 07/23/2006 :  6:26:53 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Beautiful!!

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