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spam4einstein


839 Posts

Posted - 07/19/2006 :  11:25:14 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We have to accept the results. Though I dont like it at all. In truth, I think this proves the majority of Union county residents want alcohol sales....I dont think anyone can deny that! The bible thumpers did a great job of getting their base to the polls. I have to tip my hat to them...they used the system to their advantage. Its not a binding vote, so in the short term its a clear victory for the prohibitionists, but this vote may not hold as much water in just a few years. In reality it is really a "opnion poll" And a less than 1% dosnt mean anything. I figured this would loose, my feelings were a generation would have to die off before it passed. Turns out we were maybe only a year away. This issue isnt moving away..its just on vacation for a while!


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mad4martinis

USA
13730 Posts

Posted - 07/19/2006 :  1:34:50 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
According to Lamar he won't bring it back up while he's in office. I guess he really doesn't want the ritz to come in here & give this county more revenue. Too bad, so sad.


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mad4martinis

USA
13730 Posts

Posted - 07/19/2006 :  1:55:16 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I wonder how good of a day Lamar is having today?!

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Wildflower

USA
4528 Posts

Posted - 07/19/2006 :  3:27:03 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Love those graphics, Maddy!

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paprclip22mom

USA
8177 Posts

Posted - 07/19/2006 :  3:29:32 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I posted this in the other thread but it belongs here too. Well I do know that of the 600 or so city voters that only part of them still live inside the city limits. People rent homes or apartments and forget to change their addresses for voting when they move. I am surprised that only 45 turned out to vote but there are not 600 actual voters.

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coosa creek

USA
39313 Posts

Posted - 07/19/2006 :  4:20:24 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I know of a few that were going to vote yes, that did not show up to vote yesterday. One was my husband and one, a restaurant owner. I guess we never knew just a few votes would make the difference. My hsband did not get off work until 6:45.

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ricks


85 Posts

Posted - 07/19/2006 :  6:24:05 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And when you add in the fairly large number of folks who consider themselves residents here, such as me, but who aren't eligible to vote as it's a second home until retirement, I doubt the vote would have been close. It's a shame those that were eligible, didn't get out and swing the vote. I'm up here now on a two week vacation. I wanted to vote yesterday more than you know, but couldn't.

I'm not in tune with the "goings on" of Union County politics. Being a newcomer and all. But, Lamar thinks this issue is now over. My advice to him would be, "don't bet on that".

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coosa creek

USA
39313 Posts

Posted - 07/19/2006 :  6:44:44 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have many friends who live up here part time, but can't vote. But they will retire up here in the next few years. I think things will change. I guess this means we will never get a publix!

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Honoria

USA
50 Posts

Posted - 07/19/2006 :  7:43:29 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Does anyone know how far in feet Cobb Mill Bakery/Monets and the "Gecko" restaurant are from First Baptist Church?

Are they within the 500' is the question.

As I said, I don't care personally, I drink at home, occasionally when I go out, but alcohol plays a very minor part in my life. Even though I may act as if my life revolves around "brewskis."

Promise you all won't tell anyone, but I nearly hit the NO button. Not for the reasons you think. I read the proposed ordinance and thought "wow, this thing leaves no margin for error and structures the sale and consumption of alcohol so tightly that it's not going to bring in any fancy, expensive restaurants even if the Yes Votes win."

So, here's what I'm thinking. Those who want an alcohol ordinance could do some majoy studying of other ordinances around Georgia (starting with Towns, Fannin, White and Lumpkin) to see just what rules/regluations the "drinking counties" have passed regarding alcohol sales and consumption.

And while you're doing that, I'll make a little trip over to the bar where the Union Co locals go and write down the license plate numbers. I'm going to wait a week or so because I want their routine to get back to normal after they pick up those big yellow No billboards.

Then we could get back here and you all give a report and I'll list the make and model of vehicle and GA license plate numbers (not all Union Co licenses have the strip that indicates "Union County" as the place of residence.

Catch you later,
Honoria

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Wildflower

USA
4528 Posts

Posted - 07/19/2006 :  7:55:43 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"And while you're doing that, I'll make a little trip over to the bar where the Union Co locals go and write down the license plate numbers. I'm going to wait a week or so because I want their routine to get back to normal after they pick up those big yellow No billboards.

Then we could get back here and you all give a report and I'll list the make and model of vehicle and GA license plate numbers (not all Union Co licenses have the strip that indicates "Union County" as the place of residence."


Honoria,

Isn't that going too far?

Is it against the law?

Besides, how do you know that the people at that bar voted "No"? I think if you do this, it's going to bite you in the butt.

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Honoria

USA
50 Posts

Posted - 07/19/2006 :  9:56:29 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I already know who goes over there. They were probably "no" voters because they think they're getting away with something by drinking "on the sly."

Maybe I'll just take pictures of them leaving the bar.

I probably will get myself in major trouble if I started investigating this County. Know of a man who was put in jail for asking too many questions. That's why Union County has the motto: Go along to get along.

And don't let me forget that!

LOL,
Honoria

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samantha_blue


1193 Posts

Posted - 07/19/2006 :  10:00:04 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Honoria, you are a brave soul, LOL!! Tell us some about you, are you a Blairsville native? Do you work, retired? If your not retired, do you plan on staying here when you do retire?

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Honoria

USA
50 Posts

Posted - 07/19/2006 :  10:43:36 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am a Southerner by Birth and the Grace of God. I was born in the neighboring Heart of Dixie State to the West.

I currently reside in Union County and work in Blairsville.

I'm retiring in a couple of months and had planned to move immediately, but have decided to stick around for a bit.

I view retirement as a "perpetual vacation."

I am a Highly Opinionated Woman Living In North Georgia. (Acronym "H-O-W-L-I-N-G")

And proud of it!
Honoria


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paprclip22mom

USA
8177 Posts

Posted - 07/19/2006 :  10:47:44 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:

I already know who goes over there. They were probably "no" voters because they think they're getting away with something by drinking "on the sly."

Maybe I'll just take pictures of them leaving the bar.

I probably will get myself in major trouble if I started investigating this County. Know of a man who was put in jail for asking too many questions. That's why Union County has the motto: Go along to get along.

And don't let me forget that!

LOL,
Honoria

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Honoria I know someone who was arrested and run out of town for the same thing but they came back a year or 2 ago. Nice guy actually. Dont know if it's the same one or not.

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samantha_blue


1193 Posts

Posted - 07/19/2006 :  11:24:40 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Cool, Honoria!!! I hope you stick around!! You've added alot of "color" to the forum!! It's nice to see a fresh approach on the topics!

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Chris

USA
179 Posts

Posted - 07/19/2006 :  11:42:53 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Does anyone know how far in feet Cobb Mill Bakery/Monets and the "Gecko" restaurant are from First Baptist Church?

Are they within the 500' is the question.


According to Google Earth, they're both over 1,000 feet from First Baptist. But I think there's another church, at one time anyway, that is/was across the street from Dos Geckos in the same plaza as the pool hall. Considering all these little independent churches that have sprung up across North Georgia, I don't think any restaurant is safe. Perhaps a future ordinance would excuse any existing restaurants from newly-built churches ruining their pouring license.

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mad4martinis

USA
13730 Posts

Posted - 07/19/2006 :  11:47:36 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, if it's the churches that would complain or do something about it, the Unity (which used to be in that spot across from Dos Geckos) wouldn't have minded.

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Admin

USA
1484 Posts
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Posted - 07/20/2006 :  12:00:20 AM  Show Profile  Visit Admin's Homepage  Reply with Quote
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Then we could get back here and you all give a report and I'll list the make and model of vehicle and GA license plate numbers

Honoria, you wouldn't be able to place that list here. I'm fairly certain that would violate our Usage Policy.

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nativelady

USA
11126 Posts

Posted - 07/20/2006 :  12:10:21 AM  Show Profile  Visit nativelady's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Good Grief! LOL! Time to take up the signs. Both, Yes and No signs. And let a dead horse lie. It's over. For now. Til next time! Was pretty close, and in all honesty, seems it was basically 50/50, pretty much how I had it calculated just by opinions I heard from here and at work too. Time changes things, and Things change time, but Nothing will ever change the heart of Good Ole Blairsville!

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donp

USA
16 Posts

Posted - 07/20/2006 :  08:33:22 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That was the finest election money could buy! I understand the churches raised upwards of $50,000 to fight the alcohol proposition and got 3,000 + votes for it, works out to about $15/vote.
Whatever, it was perfectly legal for them to do this, but it won't go that easy next time.
Now that we know we can get it passed, it's time to open it up for allowing taverns and take-out. Might just as well.

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coosa creek

USA
39313 Posts

Posted - 07/20/2006 :  08:51:20 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Honoria is a woman and i agree with her, I did not like the way the proposal was worded. Italked to Joan last night and she and dave would have voted yes, but did not vote. Like me, she did not think the vote would be that close. They were going to allow the sale of beer and wine in their restaurants, but no liquor.

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rmreed

USA
20 Posts

Posted - 07/20/2006 :  10:52:43 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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lol!

Well it is so close as it was said here somewhere that Lamar could do what he wanted about it I reckon.. and he may still. ALL I KNOW IF HE WAS DEPENDING ON THAT TO HELP HIM KNOW WHO WOULD VOTE FOR HIM AGAIN OR..LOL


Well I agree that Lamar may go ahead and do what he want's too. I don't think he will have much of a choice. He has already made a statement that our next property Appraisals will be way up. So also look out for your property tax increase. He is truly in debt and the county is going to have to pay eventually and that may be the answer, (issue a license to sell beer and wine in a package store. I think putting alcohol on the ballot was just a ploy for future ventures. Did anyone read Ray Potts (former Blairsville Mayor's) statement in two weeks previous North Ga News. (Ray stated that even though Lamar had made the statements that he was not pushing the alcohol issue one way or the other "he had personally contacted every member on the City Council to convince them to place the alcohol issue on the City Ballot. That way if it did not pass in the county, it would in the city)


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mad4martinis

USA
13730 Posts

Posted - 07/20/2006 :  11:00:50 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lamar has said that this is it. He's done with it. No recount. (don't have to do with with a referendum) He wants it to go away, but is he willing to make the county go into dept over it? If the county was in that big of dept, don't you think he'd go ahead & release that license without having a vote on it? People say he doesn't want to step on the toes that put him in office because he's made a promise to them. Well, he didn't promise me a darn thing & I voted for him. If he's saying it won't go back on a ballot or doesn't do anything to release this license, he's got a lot of votes against him in the next election. Maybe that's what he wants in the long run. I don't blame him, he's got a stressful job.

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Wildflower

USA
4528 Posts

Posted - 07/20/2006 :  11:09:17 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
" I already know who goes over there. They were probably "no" voters because they think they're getting away with something by drinking "on the sly."

Maybe I'll just take pictures of them leaving the bar."


Honoria,

I don't think that's an ethical thing to do.

There is no way for you to know how those people voted, unless you're a mind reader. You can't just say they were probably "No" voters.

Furthermore, even if they were "No" voters, you can't ascertain their reasons for voting "No". Maybe they prefer to brownbag?

As much as I think the anti-alcohol stance is misguided, I would not stoop so low.

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Cherry Blossom

USA
18932 Posts

Posted - 07/20/2006 :  11:15:56 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Honoria I enjoy your posts, you are fun!

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