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Zircon


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Posted - 02/14/2006 :  11:36:51 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've held off from chiming in on this for a while, but I need to vent a little.

What's the bottom line here?

It JUST...ISN'T...THAT...BAD.

He sent photos of naked women to a few of his buddies in the school.

It was a bad decision. It kinda makes him look like an immature frat boy. He has the embarassment of the whole county knowing about, and after the Channel 2 blurb, people across the state now know about it. Besides that, he was also suspended for a week without pay. Every single day, plenty of people do far worse and receive far less in return.

He was punished. The punishment probably fit the crime. He didn't send the email to students or do anything inappropriate with students. Even though it's possible that he could have emailed photos of naked women every single day of his career, there's no evidence to suggest that it has ever happened before.

It's time to let it go. But, people won't. Why?

Some people have a grudge against him. Virtually any public figure will develop enemies no matter what they do, people who want to see them self-destruct to settle a score.

Some people need a soapbox. People love drama. What's TNT's slogan? "We know drama." So does Union County, and the rest of the world. People like to have a cause, an injustice to fight against. Union County has plenty of other causes to pursue besides this. Pick one.

I will also say that I am familiar with some of the people involved with this. Some of them are well meaning people who are disturbed by the whole thing, and honestly feel that Rohrbaugh should be removed. They are very genuine in their concern, and I understand their reasoning, I just happen to disagree with it.

Then there are others whose hypocrisy makes me want to gag. Some of these people have only ever taken the time to step down from their pedestal long enough to harass, humiliate, or swindle innocent people. What a joke.

Some people enjoy seeing a public figure in scandal, to fall from grace. It helps them to forget about their own sin, to feel better about it, like its not as bad or less destructive.

Matthew 7:3 - "Why do you look at the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?"

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ShadowMan

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Posted - 02/15/2006 :  12:44:40 AM  Show Profile  Visit ShadowMan's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Well stated, Zircon. Stick around - we could use your measured words in other areas of the forum.

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daughterofconfederate

USA
29728 Posts

Posted - 02/15/2006 :  01:35:00 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I second that motion Shader!Zircon, Thank you!

I am still wondering if there is any affiliation Justin? Are you in anyway outside of being a member of these boards, affiliated with Sonny and his wife?

Has ANY of the reporting Reporters ever been bias? Does a reporter usually comment on wether it was fair or not or do they usually let the readers wonder or draw their own conclusion? Ive been going thru websites of the news channels and also of some other papers OUTSIDE OF BVILLE and yet do I see reporters drawing conclusions... its more like they tell each side and leave it be. They dont tell 300 words about one and only 50 about the other side?
Maybe the commentarys? Heck.. I am just curious is all.

Where there is hatred, let me sow love. Where there is injury, pardon. Where there is doubt, faith.

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mad4martinis

USA
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Posted - 02/15/2006 :  07:04:34 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Doc, there is a group of women, who are made up of women over 60 that don't even have kids in the schools. (maybe some have grandchildren) They are "concerned women". They are trying to get the ratings on things, don't want groups in the high schools formed, like the "gay" group, etc. I think they sound like a bunch of "Groaning Grandmas" instead.

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daughterofconfederate

USA
29728 Posts

Posted - 02/15/2006 :  07:23:51 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
O thats done there... Done heard all about that so Grandmas are late to the race on that one and NO I AM NOT FOR THAT EITHER BUT IT IS THERE AND NO I AM NOT GONNA RUN WITH GRANDMA OVER THAT ONE EITHER!

Where there is hatred, let me sow love. Where there is injury, pardon. Where there is doubt, faith.

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rmreed

USA
20 Posts

Posted - 02/15/2006 :  08:36:14 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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LOL! I am laughin about it all now too Maddy.. cause now there rage not only against the princiPAL but now its the board and rah rah rah.. Bless.

Cathy IN MY OPINION would probably tell them that if its been to the board which contains this one and that one.. and hes been punished and it was brought back up and even the channel 2 news was not even bias one way or another... that she does not have time to deal with something that has already been dealt with not once but twice. Shes also over lots of stuff like license and incorparations.. Ive gotten that kinda spill over my kids getting offered pills on the bus.

Where there is hatred, let me sow love. Where there is injury, pardon. Where there is doubt, faith.

Saint Francis of Assisi


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rmreed

USA
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Posted - 02/15/2006 :  08:38:33 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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LOL! I am laughin about it all now too Maddy.. cause now there rage not only against the princiPAL but now its the board and rah rah rah.. Bless.

Cathy IN MY OPINION would probably tell them that if its been to the board which contains this one and that one.. and hes been punished and it was brought back up and even the channel 2 news was not even bias one way or another... that she does not have time to deal with something that has already been dealt with not once but twice. Shes also over lots of stuff like license and incorparations.. Ive gotten that kinda spill over my kids getting offered pills on the bus.


This CATHY COX is the State School Super. I think your confused, the other Kathy Cox is the Secretary of State. And I can assure you that Cathy Cox is waiting to see what the board is going to do.


Where there is hatred, let me sow love. Where there is injury, pardon. Where there is doubt, faith.

Saint Francis of Assisi


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daughterofconfederate

USA
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Posted - 02/15/2006 :  08:45:03 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So shes already formed an opinion as well?

Where there is hatred, let me sow love. Where there is injury, pardon. Where there is doubt, faith.

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CaseyDoodleBug

USA
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Posted - 02/15/2006 :  6:05:44 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I understand not passing judgment. I also understand supporting a man who has done an excellent job and made a mistake. However, this was a very serious mistake.

First, most (although not all), women consider pornography offensive and degrading and I happen to be one of those. You cannot compare the pictures he sent to the classic art of centuries past. In his position, as principal, he has direct authority over many employees, most of whom are women.

You cannot compare what would happen to a student in the same situation. Young people are guaranteed an education in this country, thank goodness. People are not guaranteed jobs - those you have to earn and work hard to keep.

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daughterofconfederate

USA
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Posted - 02/15/2006 :  6:26:13 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Anyone is replaceable. This is certain. I dont foresee the ones who actually received it as being offended and it was not sent to me personally to be offended but I am of another world I reckon and that kinda stuff I can turn the cheeck on and does not bother me. I dont look at it and I dont go out and ask for it but if I did receive it, Id turned the cheeck and probably been ok in knowing it wasnt just sent to me but a few others as well so I wouldnt take that personal either.

The other side of it is the ones who actually received it.. as I have said before, we dont know that they didnt laugh about it and sent on to someone else, the wrong kinda someone else who does get offended.

I dont foresee anything else happening other than the split divided right in the middle of well... basically, in all. Bickering over who thinks what of what. Its done and over Im pretty sure. Which ever Cathy has been spoken for as already made her mind up and soo.. whatever is all that is left to say now.

His contract is renewed, it will be up in a year for renewal. In that time I reckon people can keep on being mad at the world and deal with it all over again...

Until then, theres a lot of work left to do at school for the kids, a prom coming up and graduation... lots of test and teachers and students to focus on or are we gonna forget about that part of it and worry about breast that are long gone and wont be back.

Where there is hatred, let me sow love. Where there is injury, pardon. Where there is doubt, faith.

Saint Francis of Assisi
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Social change

USA
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Posted - 02/15/2006 :  8:58:43 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just to clarify some topic material, including the recent article in the newspaper I see a lot of statements that the principal just made a "MISTAKE".
A mistake is when you add a column of numbers wrong, or you put part A where part B goes when assembling a toy or you take a wrong turn. From what l understand this could not have been just a mistake but a preconcieved intent to use the computor for the purpose of sending the aformentioned "pornographic" e mails. No mistake here!

As for as the column in the NGN, how do you spell "bias" or "slanting an article?

Whatever position you choose to take OK, I have chosen my position and l respect anyones right to chose an opposing position. What rankles me is the sophomoric ,poorly written article in the newspaper.

I've said my piece now and l will let it rest until election time.

By the way, is the Superintendent of Schools an elected official or is he appointed by the school board on an at will basis?
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daughterofconfederate

USA
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Posted - 02/15/2006 :  10:38:11 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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For those of you casting stones, please consider something. Mr. R did something you consider immoral and unacceptable, and you feel as though he should be removed from his current position because, in other words, he is unfit to be principal and lead by example for your children. Right? Now, please share with us some of your skeletons. How about telling us some of the things you have done before? Maybe some of those things that you didn't think were serious at the time, but you wouldn't want your children to know about. And then, we can all decide if you are fit or unfit to be a parent. Sound good?



That is a VERY good point!

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Food4Thought

USA
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Posted - 02/15/2006 :  11:12:54 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Superintendent is no longer elected. I think when Mr. Stephens chooses to retire, the school board will appoint a new one. The board members are elected but on rotating years. I did not see the pictures other than those shown on Channel 2 News. I have read the article in the NGN and am not surprised by the writers' words. He is known for sugar coating all the news that is news. I personally feel that this issue should be over. No one ever agrees on a punishment regardless of the crime. The principal has been punished and the negative publicity he has received will be something he has to deal with for years to come. Whether we think his punishment is severe enough is all a matter of our own opinion. We have court systems and in our case, school boards, to decide the fate of the convicted. The principal has had his sentence now let's leave him alone.Go to Top of Page
daughterofconfederate

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Posted - 02/15/2006 :  11:15:59 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And I will drink Pepsi to that!

Where there is hatred, let me sow love. Where there is injury, pardon. Where there is doubt, faith.

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Razor

USA
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Posted - 02/15/2006 :  11:30:01 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That is a good point. The ones with the condemning behavior of this man should check and see how pure of self they really are.How many of these people turn the channel of the movie they are watching when a naked breast appears? I may recommend to a friend to go see 40 year old virgin which has very explicit sex and language. Does that mean that every man who sees this movie should be pulled away from all females and is a danger to society.Get Real.I have had krispy creme donut calendars with rather large naked females and one woman with her rear painted like a pumpkin for halloween sent to me and i cannot for the life of me think this person is nothing more than just a normal person. At work if i receive what i think is an offensive email i delete it.Everyone i know who works in any type business,Where be it education or law or News reporter has gotten emails from friends or co workers who are just looking to break the day with a little humor( not always in good taste).I have sent emails just like everyone else ( not always in good taste) and then think was that poor judgement.I am not by no means nothing but a mistake ,bad judgement,poor decision making human being. I just think certain people with a noose in their hand and eyes set on ruining a persons career and character should be made aware of their own bad choices and mistakes.Then if you are that pure and perfect ,cast the first stone.

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Razor

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Posted - 02/15/2006 :  11:34:51 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
He that questions another mans character should be willing to have his own questioned.

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daughterofconfederate

USA
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Posted - 02/16/2006 :  12:01:09 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ok... that makes sence to me too. If we can say our say, I reckon so should others IF that is true about his wife then I really think Mr. R. is even more of a man for not throwing that back at these folks.

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Razor

USA
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Posted - 02/16/2006 :  12:03:23 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank You

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daughterofconfederate

USA
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Posted - 02/16/2006 :  12:06:07 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You just flipped me out! I wasnt expecting that and thats the first Ive heard of it. You are welcome. :)

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mad4martinis

USA
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Posted - 02/16/2006 :  07:02:52 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It was deleted, but now I forgot who put it on there. (??)


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GrayEagle

USA
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Posted - 02/16/2006 :  08:30:37 AM  Show Profile  Visit GrayEagle's Homepage  Reply with Quote
It's still there, Maddy. 12th from the top.

GrayEagle
"Beauty of whatever kind, in its supreme development, invariably excites the sensitive soul to tears."
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luvngamtns


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Posted - 02/16/2006 :  09:25:08 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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It was deleted, but now I forgot who put it on there. (??)

It's still here Maddy, it was Razor, who then goes on to say in a later posting;

quote:
He that questions another mans character should be willing to have his own questioned.



Hmmmmmmm.......

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daughterofconfederate

USA
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Posted - 02/16/2006 :  12:00:00 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good point.... again..

Where there is hatred, let me sow love. Where there is injury, pardon. Where there is doubt, faith.

Saint Francis of Assisi
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Social change

USA
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Posted - 02/16/2006 :  4:08:16 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Food for Thought, your point is well taken. However we feel about this , the system has spoken and we have the results. To quote an oftt spoken phrase, the "court of public opinion" will be the final judge.

When Dr. Jonas Salk went out, people would say " theres the man who invented polio vaccine ". When Neil Armstrong goes out, people say " there goes the first man to go to the moon. "

People will not say, there goes Mr. Rohrabaugh, an excellent educator, they will say-- there goes the principal involved in the pornographic e mail scandal at the high school. Memories are long and this will be his and his families cross to bear forever.

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Social change

USA
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Posted - 02/16/2006 :  4:08:16 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Food for Thought, your point is well taken. However we feel about this , the system has spoken and we have the results. To quote an oftt spoken phrase, the "court of public opinion" will be the final judge.

When Dr. Jonas Salk went out, people would say " theres the man who invented polio vaccine ". When Neil Armstrong goes out, people say " there goes the first man to go to the moon. "

People will not say, there goes Mr. Rohrabaugh, an excellent educator, they will say-- there goes the principal involved in the pornographic e mail scandal at the high school. Memories are long and this will be his and his families cross to bear forever.

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